Where is the Buddha Boy?
Sudden disappearance of Nepal’s ‘Little Buddha’ triggers wild speculations.
So, the Buddha Boy has left the meditation venue. Was that a voluntary decision or the 16-year-old ‘Little Buddha’ was forced to end his meditation? Just like the contradictory views about Ram Bahadur Bomjam’s ‘eating habit’, conflicting guesses about his ’sudden’ departure from the jungle of Ratanpur Village of Bara District are emerging. Why he left? Everyone in the streets of Kathmandu who was aware of the news and whom I met today was asking this question. Over the months, Ram Bahadur has become the constant source of news and topic for tea-talks in Nepali society. So the latest development has become one of the most sensational news of the recent years in Nepal (and the development has already made headlines around the world). Posters of Ram Bahadur have been widely distributed in Nepal depicting him as a larger than life figure as if he was a REAL Buddha. In a society where there are hundreds of thousands of people firmly believe in the “divine power” of Sai Baba, an Indian personality, it is no surprise that Ram Bahadur Bomjam found a warm and convincing place in peoples’ heart.
Ram Bahadur was caught in between the ‘cold war’ of administration and the Maoist rebels. The administration was alleging that the Maoists were levying ‘tax’ on the money that visiting pilgrims donated to the committee that looked after the ‘Little Buddha’. Conspiracy theorists have already started throwing out wild speculations about the sudden disappearance. Some are saying he might return back and resume the meditation process while others conclude that the meditation phase has been finished and the ‘enlightened’ boy will start preaching. Some shy we should not care about where Ram goes or what he does. Yet some believe that he was not abducted by the Maoists or forced to leave by the police.
Guesses and speculations rule until truth comes out. And people are eagerly waiting for that.
Filed under: Nepali Society
It can be taken anyway/and will be:
– Generally our notion of meditation is that the person tries to be away from the masses,crowds , family and contemplate in solitude to gain the knowledge/enlightment. Doing this is a place thronged by “devotees” is explicably incompatible. So his going to a separate secret place is justifiable.
– He may just be a troll. Started with some fantasies, couldn’t bear the hardship, fled.
– Only time will tell what he really was/is.
He left himself or was he abducted?
Truth yet to be revealed !!!
ya, it should be happen and it happens finally. he was there for meditation as he says . but the superstitious and curious nepalese dont allow him to meditate. they called him self buddha, bounded him in fences and started offerring him garlands and make irritete.businessman make him object of business in name of providing servics to devotees. can u stay in a pace in a crowd for 2 or 3 hours , i dont think u can not but so called little budda faced it for 10 months . so he left the place . why to search him now . lets him be free to do his meditation . why to search him as world number 1 criminal. i dont know why u all dont allowed one who wish for peace to do his work according to his will? LEAVE HIM IN HIS WAY. I DONT THINK HE SHOULD BE SEARCHED , LET HIM BE MYSTERY.
Maybe they will put CCTV where they find him?
Probably, the medicament has gone for the meditation.
I believe he got disturbed by the crowd and the money-making business around him there in Ratanpuri.
maybe he discovered enlightenment. if he did, it’s a sure bet he left this planet.
with hope, he doesn’t have enemies that have kidnapped him or worse.
May be he had enough of people killing each other.
May be he had enough of tears of mourning mothers.
May be he had enough of smell of burning human flesh.
may be maoist had set ambushes in his path to nirvana
May be he had enough of autocratic king
May be he had enough of democratic leaders.
May be he had enough of media
May be Nepal doesen’t deserve another Buddha.
Lies don’t last.Had he been a real buddha he should have continued to meditate sor years as he said.I dont believe him al all.He is just like the Ganesh drinking milk few years ago.
Why dont buddha reincarnate in US, somewhere in NewYork(best place would be central park)or in London or Tokyo?Why in the world’s poorest country?I guess its our ignorance and poverty that creared him.
prakash what a thoughtless shallow comment. why should bhudda incarnate in the US or Tokyo? just because a country may appear successful doesn’t mean that God will incarnate there - you think God will incarnate somewhere because it “rich”. you are a fool and it is your ignornane and intellectual poverty that thinks this way.
Prakesh, I think you are too young to attempt on this blog. Go to back to school and learn more and come back when you are done with school..
In view of his ten month of meditation, it is clear that Ram was an extraordinary human being and it is obviously difficult for ordinary mortals for us to understand him.
hmmmmm…… its ok for you guys to not to agree with me.Its just my opinion.I would rather not believe in something that is not proven than to blindly workship it.
bhudai pundit, you didnt understand what i was i trying to say.I didnt refer those places for their wealth.I was just wondering why such miracles dont happen in Advanced societies? Why does so called “little buddha” reincarnat in a society where innocient people are killed daily and parents sell their daughter to indian brothels?Why does buddha reincarnat in a country that discriminates people by cast and gender?Why does buddha reincarnat in a country where there is no respect for women,where barbarians from jungle rape and kill women? Why does buddha reincarnat in a country that has no place for peace lovers?
Shouldn’t he (if possible)reincarnat in a country that has honest and moral people, a place where men respect women,where people are not discriminated by the cast?Shouldnt the peace loving people from other countries get chance a to have buddha reincarnat in ther soil?
Hahahahahahaha….
I am telling you ,if buddha could reincarnat, he would never reincarnat in a country like this which is full of barbarians and betrayers.
waiba, by the way, my name is Prakash not Prakesh.
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eKantipur.com yesterday reported that the boy was found near the jungle. Now that story is not available in their site(I’d commented in that story but the comment never appeared, I think it got moderated). Anyways, if you’re interested I’ve captured the screen shot in my blog. You can check it at http://nirlog.com/2006/03/11/buddha-boy-lost-and-found/
well, prakash you are off the topic here.
as for the miracles in society: first, your so called ‘little budda’s are either born by god’s will or they are created by circustance. circumstance could be the case in nepal or otherwise but yr comment doesn’t fit anywhere.
his effort to do what he has been apparently doing so far should be respected but not disturbed. that’s what probably happened in his case or otherwise (which is usual in Nepal).
But if he is abducted!…what’s the incetive behind this? If not, well then he is on his own in the middle of nowhere. let’s wait until he comes out..
Well Prakash; the only I can say about the fact is the change. i.e. We need change our country is in deep trouble. so like this recarnation would led to peace in some extent. It does not mean the place specific. I guess there are also such people in other part of the world but they don’t flash to media. They considered the power in other way. It their different style.
So, the way you think that Only poor country like nepal have such cases is totally wrong.
So, chnage the way you think
not wise
not wise thing to take Buddha literally
not wise thing to meditate in the dark forest
not wise thing to lose life (eaten by tigers)
not wise thing to attach importance to the act
not wise thing to waste time in useless talk
not wise thing to feel sad about the end of foolishness
You should watch out for the difference between “reincarnate” and “incarnate”. Buddha can’t reincarnate because he reached nirvana and stepped out from the reincarnation cycle, in the first place. Though this mistake is made even in worldwide news to mislead the mass, who is to talk about Buddhism without knowing the most basic information about it?
The fact so far done by Ram Bahadur Bomjam is really respectable.
With full respect, I wish him very best of luck on his way to life.
how come KG missed visiting little buddha?
lets not be concentrated on all these myths.might the boy had gone somewhere else for peace ( meditation) because of the distrbances caused by public , mediapersons and other factors .so lets not focus on it and lets do our works properly
prakash,
I think u are very immature.With age,experience and education i hope you will cultivate the habbit of seeing things from different angles and analyse them well before opening ur mouth or running ur fingers over ur keyboard. Unless of course you are a narcissist, i guess u will improve. U got to have a much better attitude, before u think people want to read what u write boy!!
Dunno if he is the incarnation or not but i can say this much,I being an adult cannot stay a day without eating and cannot dare to stay under a tree infront of my house for one single night.This kid did it for 10 months in the middle of the forest and that too for no apparent financial/geopolitical gain.This is no mean feat,if this was a small thing i dont think the whole world would have gone gaga about it.
The simple answer to why buddha is born in our land is because ours is a pious land.Ours is a great land,the birthplace of the BUDDHA and above all we need him the most.
He has done more to dessipate the name of our country than anyone of us here. If there had been no safety concern in our country there would have been flocks of tourists visiting him (still many have visited) specially from the buddhist nations and the westeners who follow buddhism.I was shocked when an american lady asked about his health with me when i was waiting for my flight in an airport in New York after i told her i was from Nepal,and astonishingly she knew more about him than I did and when i came back home and searched in google by putting his name,i found out there were many foreigners who have visited his meditation site and wrote about it in their own blog sites.
We can only hope and pray,may this precious son of our motherland be safe.
Prakash,
I also live in the moral and bla bla…society that u are talking about.Let me tell you one thing,People here as hysterical about tears coming out of a statue,when magicians can do that.If they had anything like our little buddha they would have made a big hue and cry about it.
And by the way after living for years over here one thing i have realised is,Ours is a great religion which has taught me to respect others religion too.Unlike ur civilized society which says only our god is a god.Only our religion is a religion and only we are civilized people of the world.I think u have got a wind of that philosophy,brother drop it before it gets wind out of you.
Prakash, if you want to make people understand your point of views, you have to understand yourself first. You can not convience other people when you yourself is not convienced. Miracle happens all over the world everyday. You can see miracle everyday when you know what is miracle.
Indian Coke, you are such a pacifist. Who are you say what is wise and what is not wise?
Why does everyone presume anything? Has anyone asked the boy who he is? Why do we presume he is a reincarnation of Buddha or not. Maybe he is simply Ram Bahadur Bomjam, and he wants to meditate. Media over does everything. If in Nepal he is a Buddha, in Jerusalam he may be a Jesus, in Saudi Arabia he is Muhammed, in India he is Ram, well… he is Ram in Nepal too, but Ram Bahadur.
i wish i were never a medical student!!!!
how can a human being remain alive even after fasting for 10 months!!!!!! or is the science of nutrition WRONG?
poor country nepal!! so no investigations yet???
few months back our teachers had been there and when they returned, they had written in kantipur challenging the government about the case.. but look…look to the government……. what is happening here???
i am hopeless commenting all these many months in UWB.. what use when there is no progress in work???
Who knows whether maoists abducted him too!
They think they are a king of wisdom but we can say it’s not the work of present king because his wisdom is just disregarded by countrymen.
I saw you all guys are talking about your faith on some unfounded materials which was essentially inherited from our long run generation. Most of the things are running in our society without proper analysis but purely on several myths as it tells kaliyug came after passing of long time gap. Buddha boy, I say a little boy who beleives on some sort of fantasy and I guess he never called him as buddha, but it might be posted name by other so that some bussinessmen can run behind him pursuing their own bussiness.
Lets talk to the point what things appeared superficially:
No one are allowed to investigate or watched him whether he is taking something or not, as the fact is no one survive for quite long time dehydrating for 10 month.
He might have been dissappeared on his will will emerge somewhere soon to take the media flash once again.So we dont need to worry. He has own privacy to maintain to acheive his goal, so why need to run behind? let him do in his own.
We guys are killing our creative time focussing someone to gain nothing. For sure it will be revealed some day sooner or later as some bussiness partner will evolve out to reveal so.
Is not sure that some people are hiding back to him to provoke him doing so to make their bussiness run, or to catch some eyes for its territorial management.
well, if he follow the same to Buddha, then why we need to exaggerate him as it is already evolved and existed for long. He might have been repeated the case and will get nothing new. Where is little Einstein or Newton knowing the same fact.
That is what I have seen the prosperous of this media flash.
is he follower of buddha or being buddha?There are many follower in the world. Just the difference is that no other are residing under the Peppal tree for long as he is doing. If it is the case he might be popular just for being fasting for long.So, he deserves to see from such angel rather than Krishna or Buddha reincarnation. Now question arises, is he focussing himself on for not eating or being enlightning? if he is really extracting some abstract from vagues why he need to go for such long fasting that can make him depriving the energy and just his mind goes for hungry not for the objective, provided he doesnt get anything for 10 months. It seems his desire is genius but shold based on some real ground that other can accept. I wish he acheive his goal based on reality.
Hi , every body Namste. Iam 6 years old , now i am in Japan, i see news everyday but am very surprise , how is the possible people survibe wothout eat and drink?? one day i told my teacher and show his photo, then i know nobody can survibe without eat and drink . i never do that because it is hamful for me.
Prakash:
I think you answered your own question. Maybe the Bhuddha reincarnates in our country because we have these problems. What would be the point of incarnating in a place where everything is perfect. But Prakash it seems you have either grown up in a cave or you have complete disregard for what goes on in the rest of the world. Don’t be too sure that these cities and places you speak so highly of are so perfect. Parents might not sell their children to brothels but do you know how many childen are victims of pedophils? Do you know how many women sell themslves to the porn industry, strip clubs or escort agencies and millions of businesses and businessman live off these industries?
What is this advance socities you speak of? Be more specific. You are obviously not familiar with European or Japanese History otherwise you wouldn’t label them “advanced” on the basis of seeing skyscrapers and big highways.
Maybe you can argue that these places have been fairly peaceful for the last 20 years but they are still responsible for prepatuating most of the conflicts around the around.
You need to rethink your beliefs my friend.
Hi every body,
Seems some of the readers in this blog have some issues about my comments on the so called “little Buddha”. Some of them also have suggested me to “grow up”, “get matured”. Some of them have characterized as some kind of weirdo.
Ok here is the thing, I am 37 and I have been working for the last 13 years to rescue and supporter the girls that have been trafficked to Indian brothels. May be most of you think that my criticism of the so called “little Buddha” is some kind of immature crappy thing. So Why don’t you try to convince those innocent girls living in rehabs that Buddha reincarnated in Nepal and try to get their reaction? Once we rescued a girl who was sold to a trafficker by his own father, after rescuing her we took her back home after few months in rehab, you know what happened? The so called father sold her again and she was abducted from her home by some pimps. Her whereabouts is unknown till this day. We guess this time she may have been trafficked to some gulf countries.
You know what happens to these girls once trafficked? Once a girl told me she had been gang raped by for 3 days by more than 30 Indians in a brothel. (We found her in one of the hospital in the Kamathipura, she was bleeding to death, and no one wanted to give her blood, even the police forced us to discharge her from the hospital ) So don’t tell me how some foreigner in NY reacted to the “little Buddha” story. Also, don’t tell me about how great our religion is. I know it all.
I think our religion is more oppressive than any other religion, even more oppressive than Islam. Last year we had one case; one woman was raped and killed when she was sleeping outside her house. Why she was sleeping outside her house? She couldn’t go in because she was having her period. (In some parts in Nepal women are not allowed in the house during the menstruation period.) See!!!! This is our “Great Religion”.
religion is not oppressive, but the culture surely is
waiba,
i am someone who knows what wisdom is
but who are you to tell me what i can say and what i cannot? what’s wrong with you, retard?
where is Buddha more insulted than in Nepal?
both G and MBs insult Buddha everyday
Ram Bahadur a symbol for peace.
G likes guns, he does not like Ram, buddha, peace
Prachanda likes guns, does not like Ram, buddha, peace
someone calls me pacifist, lover of peace
and hates me
he is also with the guns
yes, Ram could have been abducted by MBs
yes, Ram could have been abducted by G’s people
don’t you see the cops above
prakash,
First of all let me tell you u dont become mature just by age or else T.giri and G.P.koirala should be the most mature persons of this country.About ur work,its a novel work if u are telling the truth,and by the way dont think that u are doing some social work means u can say anything,u can hold anyone responsible for any problem.
HOW STUPID A PERSON HAS TO BE TO BLAME OUR RELIGION FOR THE GIRLS TO BE SOLD!!Where in our great religious books have u found one should sell ur daughters,Is it written in Gita that one should keep ur wife out when she is menstruating? It depeneds on the person and his level of education and not his religion when he commits a crime or becomes cruel.
Its a pity that at this age of modernisation girls are still trafficked and by the way its not just our problem,its the problem of the third world as a whole.Its a rampant problem in combodia,eastern europe,russia and a big big problem for mexico and other south american countries.The pimps know no race,no religion they just know money and thats what they are after.” YOU MUST BE REALLY REALLY RETARDED TO BLAME OUR RELIGION FOR IT”.And you must be out of minds to even compare our religion with Islam which thinks women as a commodity and not as humans.
firstly human I have to disagree with you. before you make such a comment I hope you know what you are talking about. Islam like any other religion never says that women are like commodity. Religion is never the problem! it is also the people. Prakash is right to some extent that there are many opressive elements in Hinduism - like the caste system and the treatment of the dalits. But again this religions fault but rather a group of brahimins who manipulated scripture for their selfish ends.
prakash like human mentioned how does that women who got raped have anything to do with hinduism? I see no connection.
Hmmmm…..seems that I am only the one who hates the so called religion that we practice in Nepal. OK here is what I think; I think the Hindu religion doesn’t exist any more; it only exists in the books. It died long ago when those Brahmins and pundits started to suck the blood out of other people in the name of religion. It died when those dalits and janajatis were stripped off their rights. It died when those pundits started teaching women that their husbands were gods.
Hye human,
By the way I really don’t want to involve in a discussion with someone like you who has lived in some other country for years. It is use less talking to you.
Hye human,
Also please stop using unappropriate words here.
Hye human,
By the way read these statements of yours
“Ours is a great religion which has taught me to respect others religion too”
And
“And you must be out of minds to even compare our religion with Islam which thinks women as a commodity and not as humans.”
Do you really respect other religions?
prakash:
yes I agree that those pundits made many mistakes. Nonetheless the teachings of Hindusim are still alive and millions of people today continue to practice it. I realize that in the work you do (for which I really commend you) it must be very saddening and dishartening to see so much suffering. However, like human mentioned in his comments these pimps have no religion except money.
But Prakash I really urge you to rethink your views about Hinduism. If you say that Hindusim has died then people like you who are doing great service to humanity are bringing it back to life. After all what is Hindusim really? It is a way of life that involves non injury to others, helping the less fortunate and doing good deeds without expecting rewards. Yes there has been abuse of the scriptures by a few but please don’t disregard Hindusim altogeather.
Last post you mentioned the women sleeping outside because she had her period. Prakash many Hindu pratices and beliefs have a deeper meaning with a pratical purpose. Unfortunetly today people blindly and mechanically follow rituals. You will be suprised but even the Jews and the Muslims have this pratice of keeping the mesurating women seperately. The reason is that in all these religions the belief is that mensurating women are not pure during the time. Plus I am not sure if you know that during the mesutating time women are very moody and agitated. So maybe this had something to do with the fact that they were kept seperately to make life easier for them and people of the house. I am just giving you my opinion but I am sure the reason is far deeper. My only point is that manay Hindu beliefs have great meaning and so I just don’t think you should dismiss them without much thought.
I think it is use less to talk here,when some people here still think that women should be kicked out of their houses for the shake of others .Ok do as you wish…
Ijust read one response that says:
” during the mesutating time women are very moody and agitated. So maybe this had something to do with the fact that they were kept seperately to make life easier for them and people of the house.”
prakash,
u are talking to people not seasoned enough to get your high level thinking
sad, isn’t it?
Prakash
I think it is useless to talk to you. You can think whatever you think. I am sorry you have had to see so much misery but my last words to you is to not blame the religion for the actions of a few individuals.
I am not going to go beyond that because I can see I am better off talking to a wall.
Why are you making so much fuss about him?
First of all, I would like to say that it hardly makes any difference to a real buddha whether you believe him/her to be a buddha or not. If one is a real buddha and you don’t believe him, it will not affect his buddhahood, and your believing a person who is not a buddha is not going to make that person a buddha.
Anybody can be a buddha. It means enlightenment. The one who sees the truth ‘as it is”, not ‘as you like it to be’, or ‘as it seems to be’. To see the truth as it is, one does need to meditate seriously, but when one’s meditation is made, by ignorant people, a site of business, that is not going to serve the purpose of meditation.
I’d go further in the jungle too with such prattle swimming around my ears. the commen denominator in misery is man and all religions tell us suffering is not only avoidable, but necessary. I often think I haven’t suffered enough when i hear the kind of stories Prakash has witnessed. So much suffering is unfair and all religion hopes for truth, there is no reconsiliation for man. this is why existinialism and relativism is so prevalent.
What I hope is that boy who was trying to find his truth is safe, because it doesn’t matter whether he is the the buddha, thinks he’s the buddha, or others do, one boy searching for his truth makes the world a bit better. Most of the 15 year old boys have no spirituality.
Dear Prakash jee
You must be somewhere outside Nepal and as you arrived to your destination some economical benefit lured you to convert into christianity. I have quite a few experience of talking to people like u. they speak exactly in the same manner.
But you should understand that rather than criticizing it you be a part of the system and correct it. But jesus loves you.
Hinduism will never die. yes every religion has inherent flaws, hindism too has loose points- in hinduism you can discuss and correct- this liberty you have. no other religion in the world authorises this liberty.
Hindusim never says that this is the best religion whereas other religions always advocate thier supremacy.
Hindusim doesnot beleive in conversion as it regards people with other beleifs should equally treated.
Islam and Christiantiy both beleive that they are superior, they think every people in the world should be converted. they do not recognize that it is possible to live with differences.
Hinduism is multidimensional, you have the liberty to choose your god, contact him directly no one you need in between, like son of god or a saint.
We have flaws in our religion because we are illetrate but we have the power to correct it from inside the system.
interesting conversation here…
hinduism is multidimensional, yes it is old (and wisdom is infinite) but don’t u guys think we(hindus in nepal) always see religion but don’t study it really or do critical analysis? Isn’t that why we ask questions as we see other religions…at least, christianity has changed with time as ppl question their faith granted they did commercialise their religion.
of course religion and race go together, so you can’t convert your religion, your race!
But, of course it needs change as we all know, religion has had major connections in society, culture and even politics.
If religion is a picture who we are today and if today has changed from yesterday why shouldn’t our values mold with time? why shouldn’t we sit down and think about our faith? but i don’t agree that any religion is superior, religion is a system. from political to windows OS, any system has flaws. so does hinduism and the rest…
first time, Durbar buddhi is talking buddhi ko kura
that is just for one second
his buddhi will eat goo soon
Ok Mr. India let’s compromise here. i do not want to argue with you anymore over the issues that i will not move and you too will stay being more indian than a nepali. So there can be no comprimise but in the name of great hindu philosophy let’s stop bullshitting.
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For me nationalilsm is also multidimensional pls do not confine it in being a mandale or anti-indian.
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But i want to clarify here that neither i am a radical hindu nor do i hate other religions i’ve always beleived in peaceful coexistance.
In the same vein i still beleive that we can create space for all including the monarchy in Nepal.
I beleive that the only hindu kingdom must be preserved. if we fail to do so, there is a danger that the 90% plus hindus will be converted within 20 years of the so-called republic.Let us remain different this is our identity.
An example to support my argument:
In korea before the war majority of the population either beleived in buddhism or Shamanism but after 50 years(now) more than 65% are christians.
Hindus and Bhuddhists must unite for the christain invasion in nepal by correctiing our flaws. The flaws that is in the society not in the religion.
guest 001:
no one is denies that hinduism today needs alot of critical analysis. especially now since hindusim is facing competition from missionary religions.
i am not quiet sure what excatly you mean by christianity has changed with time. would you be more specific? catholics have institutionaled religion too much and most of the protestant sects are so stringent in following scripture that the Taliban look like a bunch of kids. What I appreciate about christinaity and islam is the social work they do in uplifting the poor.
but the argument made by this prakash character was totally out of line. read above and you’ll see for yourself.
yes, definitely criticism will help us understand ourselves better.
about changes in christianity what i meant was: for example the whole protestant reformation. doesn’t that tell enough of how a bunch of christians thought they’d rather divert them in a little different direction rooting from the same fundamental beliefs of christainity.. and then that’s how they decided how and where to live and how to build their society. And after a series of reforms, they had a clear distinction between religious life and social life.* But, im sure roman catholics have been hard on this and they have always tried to keep the status quo. But, again any christain has the right to choose between different sects of christianity (eg. protestant or catholic). For the western culture- religion doesn’t affect the social structure any more, does it? But for us, religion has defined the social structure and it means more than just connection to god, so if we can make a clear distinction between these, theoretically we could be changing lives. of course, there is no way in hell this is easy. but just my view u know..
I am not saying that hinduism nees to be divided, but changes should keep coming at least in understanding.
*One of the issues worth debating could be that while christianity allows switching religion completely (which shows some form of flexibility), but while doing so ppl have also found an excuse to forget their own values, own traditions and turned a western culture into a totally commerical world that can only be measured and seen. Now, here is where we ask, if you could only have one, would you have a strong ingrained culture,traditions with ppl living happily or a strong market economy with luxuries and lust?
Im sure nepal has neither but if given a choice like this, the answer could vary.
let me just stop here..sorry 4 making this long….keep yr comments coming..
Again I am not entirely sure I understand what you are getting at.
I suppose there is a distincting between religious and social life in Christinaity. Much so then in Islam or Judaism. In fact many Islamic polemics against Christainity have made this argument. Islamic writers have never bought the logic that religious and social life should be two distinct elements in a society. Because wouldn’t God care about how we conduct our economic affairs, how we structure our legal system etc. Why would God give us carte blanch in these important areas of our lives? Hence the argument for Sharia law. But even in Christianity religion seems to shape social policies. Take the example of abortion, gay marriage or stem cell research.
But of course I agree with you that in our religion the distinction is hazy. But again I don’t think that this is a true reflction of Hindu teaching. I suppose the caste system is an example that structures society. But the whole caste system concept has been severly misinterpreted. In reality hindu scripture is very clear in that it says that actions rather then birth determines someone’s caste.
So in conclusion I would say that religion defining social stucture isn’t bad - is it?
hi guys!
just wanted to ask. when did Ram Bahadur Bomjam stop meditating and was it reported in the news? i searched and couldnt find anything about it… also, is there a website that gives regularly updated info about what’s happening to him?
Thanks!
Ram banjan predicted the danger that’s going to happen to him and his followers thats why he depart and move from another jungle to meditate, Tigers and other wild animals unite and was tamed by his power of unconditional love to pursue his meditation guarded by the wild animals. He stay away from the people who has disturbed by his silenced.
That’s only my theory the Myth that hope to be true.
Theres no ending for religiuous battle Im sick tired to read the comments and all that crapped.
bhudai pundit,
the problem is not everyone may follow the same religion in that social structure. And to allow one religion to dictate to all is facism.
it is true christianity has drifted more and more into the political arena, to the destruction of both politics and their religion. but any reasonable theologian cannot support that God/Jesus advocated any political agenda. the whole point of christianity, as I understand it, and most religions, as I understand it, is “personal” salvation/redemption, truth.
Once you take any teaching that was meant for one man to apply to himself, and have other men trying to apply it to everyone, it is no longer about truth, but vanity and control. All religion has its place in mens’ hearts, not their governments.
Orzabal:
More than one religion and coexist in a social structure. In fact you look to the history of the Middle East, the Indian Sub Continant it is evidently clear and more than one religion can exist in a society.
If you really think about it I don’t think religion at the end of the day can exist completly apart from social/economic/judicial spheres of our lives. And if it does then we have a problem in fact I think that is the problem in today’s world. If countires formulated their economic/social/foregin etc. policies on the backdrop of their repective religious beliefs there would be little room from conflict. Many problems today arise out of greed, exploitation and the lust for power.
bhudai pundit:
Thank you for your thoughtful response. we were not speaking of religionS coexisting, but in your words “religion defining social stucture.” Religion, not religionS.
I agree than many conflicts currently and in the past that have been blamed on religion should actually be attributed to selfishness, greed, prejudice, etc…
However, religion has often been the vehicle, the validation. As I stated, most, if not all, religions are focused on individual redemption, and when the religion enters politics or any larger social landscape, it is usually by fanatics, who are only using religion to validate their slanted agenda.
I can essentially agree that countires could formulate their “policies on the backdrop of their repective religious beliefs there would be little room from conflict.” I would be very careful to clarify that all religions of that country must be consulted, that the goal would to include all, not exclude anyone,and that the policies were based on the simple value systems of all religions: fair justice, charity, caring for your neighbor, and peace.
I’d like to think that could be done, but I do not see why any government needs religion to do it.
let’s believe that Ram stands for Buddha
say yes to hinduism
say yes to buddhism
let’s resist other religions
say no to christianity
say no to islam
say no to coke’s PITA, baa G
orzabal and bhudai pundit:
I feel that religion and the social structure although are inter-related, now tend to head in two different directions. or at least the monarchs have tried to do so (except in Nepal b/c they’d have advantage by clinging on to it such is hinduism as of billions of yrs ago, like the kings did back in the days in the west, i belive). Now i still don’t think the hinduism itself is to blame.
As for the west, they had the monarch and the church as two different institutions until the church itself was almost defined and closely looked by the monarch with power. In a way, this looks harsh on the church but again, while the monarchs could define the social structure on various theories ,and science! , the ppl. also have the church to find their faith. I like to think this is what accelerated the west into an industrialised place.
But in Nepal, the religion is so closely connected with the society( and of course, monarchs get the advantage of this) that it’s nice to keep our culture and tradition while it could be a big barrier when a change is needed.
Now, the monarch enjoys it and the government by its side is definitely to blame as it only conerns itself and doesn’t care for the rest of the country. The reason why, we get problems in various social classes (as it’s various elements are still supressed as the religion defined 20 billion years ago!). The kings did make some moves while it wasn’t effective enough. Isn’t that what’s happening in Nepal?
In conclusion, the close connection we’ve had with religion has had major advatage while the ppl. at power abused this into a society that never got to reach out for new things! That’s why i say a system completely defined by religion is full of * u know what i mean.
i guess we are all off the topic here but ram bomjan->buddhism–>hinduism–>hinduism&buddhism–>
nepal–>.connected, ain’t it?
First of all…and this is what smells the most..
at night he is kept from public view…
……………WHY?……………………
I bet his glowing third eye would be more
noticeable. He got bitten by a
snake and a curtain went up around him…
……..MAN IT’S STARTING TO STINK…
, if your in a dusty area like that
for months you will looked as caked and ragged
as hell…believe me some bums I see that come
on the bus where I live looked F@$# up.
AND THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT: Is the original
BUDDHA DID NOT TEACH STARVING YOURSELF…he
ate like any other person when he realized
that starving his body was useless and proceed
to drink the rice milk a local girl offered
him. In conclusion…this fish stinks.
Hey guys hold on!
You people are diveriting the main topic about where is buddha??
please do stick to this topic.
If you really want to talk about REligions and all the stuff that these
HUMAN
PRAKASH
bhudai pundit
guest_001
coke etc
beeing talking about
please use other blog topic
It will be kind enough for other reader
dont make a hue and cry about this simple issue.
if he is buddha our politics will be corrected by his teachings.
hahah…good point. yea, seriously we were a little out of the way. btw, does UWB have any sort of forums based on smaller topics (like religion, monarchy, etc…u know)?
as for ram bomjam, i think barely anyone knows him truly enough to talk about him. peace out ram bomjam!
Binesh:
Relax this blog is days old and several other recent postings about the Bhudda Boy has emerged on this website. No one has posted anything about the Buddha so what’s the harm? Besides I am sure the Bhuddha Boy would appreciate our discussions.
Orzabal and guest_001:
“I’d like to think that could be done, but I do not see why any government needs religion to do it.”
No government doesn’t need religion per se but but governments could act with religious values and morals as a basis for formulating policies. And like you mentioned I am not speaking of stringent religious law but simple religious values. Perhaps you are right we don’t need religion. But no government so far seems to do it on their own so maybe introducing religion might help.
I obviously need to think about what excatly I am trying to say. I don’t know how this discussion landed here. Maybe Binesh is right.
coke will “create space for” his Pita Baa G
read his comment
this is what he said
that’s why he blogs here
he said he will not quit his DHOKE post
even after all of you try to convince him
how many of you want to be a DHOKE’s DHOKE?
his new slogan, be G’s DHOKE and save the religion and nepal
There wasn’t no such RELIGION Higher than TRUTH
blog is conversation and the wonderful part about conversation is it goes off the path.
bhudai, i believe we are basically in agreement.
Let me add: one of the most horrible things in the world is something pure being corrupted. Religion is pure but too often corrupted.
I supposed that’s the connection with Ram Bahadur and the concern so many have.
to me, attaching the name buddha does nothing for me except sound like a good hollywood story. He is a young man trying to be/remain pure and my hope is that he is safe and still on his path.
heyy!!!
What [icd] are you talking???
Don’t you guys have other things to talk and think about? Is this only way you kill your FURSAD ko time???
Where does RELIGION come in between RAM BOMJAN misterious dissaperance??
Hope he is fine by the grace of ALMIGHTY!!
Now shut up your [icd] mouth and concentrate in your work.
Think whatever is happening is happining for good, at least we can expect to know truth someway, sometime in Future…
I agree with those who say that Nepali society is bad, really stinking bad. We have one of the world’s worst cultures, and the worst aspect of it is that we try to hide everything.
As a Brahmin, I can safely say that some of my fellows have over the ages been some of the country’s worst bloodsuckers. Hinduism might once have been a great religion, but these people perverted it so much that today its nothing more than a carnival or circus, without the fun. We Brahmins have to take responsibility for being among the dullest, most reactionary, status-oriented people in the world. The Shahs have been able to hold on to power only because the Brahmins blessed them.
Its because of us Brahmins that Nepal is such a puritan society. We can’t even talk of girls being sold to brothels because of our attitudes to sex. Since the Brahmins forbid us to talk about sex, we cannot discuss anything related to it; not rapes, not child-prostitution, not incest, nothing.
Buddha challenged the Brahmins 2500 years ago but could not eradicate thier influence. What we do need is another Buddha to completely rid us of our impaired mentality which is a Brahmin legacy.
To those ppl. who think we are off the topic:
may be..but,we have passed 70! comments already, and every other comment seems to trigger another great spill of thoughts. aint that good enough for blog?
manan:
that is some good points worth manan-ing!
In Nepal, there is some sort of corruption built in the society itself by now and it’s lingering. sometimes i think, if only a king in nepal had married a non-chhetry girl(like Akbar did with a muslim), things could have been different (i’d like to think, a positive one).
Gandhi said: If you want to see changes, you have to be a change. The kings never wanted it, they were never a change themselves. But, the question and therefore the answer solely lives around us. for eg. Can you truly accept inter-cast marriage within the frame of your society, family and friends?
Can we be the change?
…
long live this blog and the internet!
The colourful life of Ram Bomjon as a Great Bodhisatva of present age who knows the mystery of the mysterious will reveal the truth, Someone BIG was threatened.
Watch out People of Nepal, This is only the Begining,
God! why u ppl are mankin so fuss?Ok everyone who comments here r so mauterd,educated,”sabai thaha bayeko”..if so then y u ppl r arguing like 5 yrs old kid?and y u guys running out of the main topic? Everyone who comments here has there own view and sayings ..So let ppl put there opinion…Don’t insult anyone with harsh words…If u think watever u r saying is good then they think so too…Just pray for a safe return of Ram bomjam.if not as a buddha but as a human..atleast have some respect to others …All these war and unrest took away our humainity from us..And Religion is a respected thing,whichever its is ..so put it up there and respect it..don’t bring down on ur dirty discussion…ITs n’t religion which is wrong it is people who make it wrong..just like politics..ok i better not go there now..Ok u all matured and intellecutal ppl..hope u guys r not freaked out by this comment..lolllllll
What if he’s still there but vibrating at a frequency we cannot see?
I dont think so cos he left his belonging 40 meters away from his meditation site, he can’t walked naked,dough,I think he worn new dhoti not to be recognized by someone, or if he doesnt eat or drink for 10 months literally he doesnt have energy to walk far from the place he will colllapse or something bad happen, spiritually beyond literal mind, the effects of meditation was incredible the feeling was very ligth and undiscribable it is only him who can defined the feeling of full fasting,for 299 days’Amazing it is beyond intellect,skeptic,rational doubts the morals mackers who insulted him, the ingnorants, the syphatizers the dreamer the false claiming attacked,the bulshiter,etc. the evidenced was there right at the root of the tree embraced him to meditate, in front of the eyes of a thousands, Now we dont have the evidenced he disapeared. it is very Mysterious to every one who follow this amazing story,of Ram Bamjan, is there any body out there who knows the Mysterious??????? Pls. reveal.
I had a simple theory about why he took off from meditation site., just a short story,im just gonna use the simple words of Below Zero instead of predicted i will use senses. sorry about my English but i have to express my point of view in these matter,
R.B.Bamjam intuitively sences the danger that coming soon as he was departed from meditation site. If he got forcefully abducted at meditation site, violent will occured instantly by his followers it is a natural instinct.either the maoist or the government people, R.B.Bamjan doesnt want that to happen. one of the practiced of bodhisatva he better leaved for the sake of peace, He took Off. the questioned is Why?
We have to go down to the level of these reality here. I’m not sure how much money involved in peoples donations i read in some claim that donation cost a million bucks, these are pretty interesting topic here,
The Government has the power to manipulate the country either good or bad,you know dirtiest games of Politics it’s very easy to them to plant some evidence to someone, like the case of R.B.Bamjon for example a simple tricks of set ups like food or a bottle of water or some drugs claiming that Ram Bamjan eat and drink water at nigth time, and it was proven.Most of People of the world will believed that Idea even me, because there was a proof of evidenced even though it was a set up. The news will spread all over the world that
R.B.Bamjan was a great hoaxed and Cheater he will be convicted and go to jail, thats what they want. So the Donation Money will be confiscated, and goes to the Government pocket. But the planned was BUSTED by the ituitived mind of Great Bodhisatva.he senses it.
R.B.Bamjan took off, peacefully with no one else knows,He left mysteriously and peoples are puzzeled? The desired donation money was been Frozen instantly No one else has the right& Authority to used or keep that money only the banks has the right, even the government,has no right to keep. that was the peoples Money. in the picture the police comes later carried gunsa at the meditation site lookin for R.R.Bamjan and it seems like ready to assault someone.
That was a BRILLIANT Moved in the mind of Bhodisatva. Where ever you are Ram Bahadur Bomjon I wish from all the stars of the universe to complete your meditation for six years.
Onircal 99
bomjan is here and gone…and here again
http://www.nepalnews.com/archive/2006/mar/mar20/news02.php
interesting article.
(i tried to post this before, it didn’t work..dunno what’s going on)
well the disappearance is only the play of the so called buddha he is very clever and the mens following him are too well he said him to make a temple at the place of the meditation the making of temple is all the game of money and the so called buddha is playing game with all the nepalese so just leave all the things as it is and just ignore him and treat him as others nepalese then automatically the truth will come
Why is he being compared with Buddha anyways, who decides that?
I don’t see it as hoax. Pardon me, but even if it is then, that boy has taken tremendous effort for that age, appreciate it. The kid simply is great. He wants to live in peace with isolation but all suckers wants some piece of it.
All the guys who have negative opinion about Ram forget all miracle he has done, just think, sitting in same position for many months, isn’t it something extraordinary..? How many on this earth can do this?
Can you not respect something which is almost impossible to do? Forget about religion, god thing.
Everybody should think atleast once before saying anything against him “What the kid has done wrong”.
NOTHING..!!
Conclusions:
Someone said “Buddha challenged the Brahmins 2500 years ago but could not eradicate thier influence”.
If the one profound teaches among the dumbs and deef there is nothing will be changed.Only sillies exist….
Buddhism teach to be a monogamy
I saw sex wooden artoons depicted on the walls of Gorkha Palace and uncountable around Kathmandu Hindu temples as well. Hindu once said “don’t talk about sex but can do that even with animals”.
As I found in Hindu Bible said that “women who were not satisfied with her husband and unable to have any children,just go to let ‘HORSE’s effort” -Manusmriti Text in Sanskrit Language.
This kind of Hindu belief was not surprised for them (maybe cuz of some Hindu people are prohibited to read Hindu bibles) but of course it was kind of fanatic colorful Hindu religion.
I was prohibited to enter Pashupati Temple of Hindu in Kathmandu. There was one of the holiest shrine of Hindu where the only Hindu women were allowed to go inside. I was so keen to know about that place then. ahh , that was my fate that i met one guy who had ever gone inside;told me that “the only place for women who come for worship to meet god in”. Ohh, I was astonished. Later on I knew that the place was for those women who has no children come to pray with naked masterbation (wid wooden god’s co^k) inside the room. They believe that the god will aoth to provide her whatever she needs.
So that Only sex can exist forever.
I’m thinking that it isn’t him at all. how did they know he would be there and to have a camera to shoot the meeting at “two miles away.” too many conincidenses. I think the “committee” is after the money. at two miles away, how can you say it is really Ram Bamjan? i’m surprised he didn’t show up with a typed request to unfreeze the money in that bank account. more than before i fear the worse for Ram Bamjan.
For all the people who are dissing the nepali culture, screw you. Hasent anyone taught you to a) have an open mind, b)not to offend other people’s cultures c) to accept people for who they are and d)to at least try and understand the cultural differences between yourself and others? Well if not, you have a heap to learn.
I am a buddhist and personally i dont think that ram bamjan is a reincarnated version of buddha because buddha made an end to all his suffering when he died. End of story!!!(sorry dont mean to sound fully into it or whatever lolz)
stop analysis and do what you do the best. He did what he does the best at least for 10 months. Controversy is to be there for obvious causes of our social, cultural and religious structure and of course because of economic gain few made here and there. Applause him for his dedication he has shown at least for those months if you beleived he has fled. i am far more materialistic yet i do respect someone doing something for entirely diferent cause. A path to enlightment, let it be of spiritual or of material is too hard, handful of passion or patience and even extreme pain of few hours or even few days ain’t sufficient. For part of me beleiving, i would like to beleive he is there somewhere doing his job (meditation or whatever he thought could yield best for him). For other part, he is uneducated fool wasting time yet i applause him for doing what he beleive in(Indeed, a quality what my non beleiveing part lacks). For the doubting part of me there is no explanation and obviously no use of explaining coz both beleiving and non beleiving part beleive doubting part is the pathetic stinky side of my personality i wish i never had.
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prakash,
seems you are those group of people who like to think u are different. portray yourself as an iconoclast, but deep down inside u are just one of those ignorant neplease, like me, about who you are so exuberant in critisizing. call us barbarians and scavengers but you are no different. and why so much praise for the western culture. may be ask an iraqi how your so called civilized coutries have made a living hell to their country.
actually i have come across a lot in my life with hypocrites like u. talk about girls beign sold to india, i doubt u were one of those.
with heavy heart i have to say. i wish i never had to write any comment to a fellow nepali on public domain but i had to.
fcuking looser try meditating for an hour and comment. dont comment on something that you even dont care about.
may hindu god always help you.
satya,
yes, Hindu god King Gyanendra will help you to send heaven soon.
I know you are stup!d Hindu belief without reason.
satya,
yes, Hindu god Kin9 Gyandra will help you to send heaven soon.
I know you are stup1d Hindu belief without reason
Very good site! I like it! Thanks!
ephedra
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Many people talks/says manythings about the Ram Bhadur Momjan, it is not necessary for every one of us to get heart pain, the boy who seeks for right path, every one us must be proud to have such a peron in the world. So lets wait till 2012 six years.
Did anyone ever consider that the boy may have died. He died and they buried him or burnt him and said he walked off heading south. He had looked in very bad health towards the end and maybe the fasting got to him. They buried him to keep the mystery going and to keep the scientists from saying ‘I told you so’.
mayans predict great change in world 2012 some say end of world. Ram show us they way.
HAribol
Om vishnaya namoh namah
Prakash
Putting your beliefs aside. First I would like to THANK YOU for trying to make this world a better and safer place for females who do not have the ability to protect themselve and are being shipped around the world like a piece of meat.
Second, for most people, instead of focusing all your energy on finding “Buddha Boy” because he might have just walked away…. because… “he wanted to be left alone” and focus your energy on some BIG problem that society is facing. Human (especially female) trafficking is one of them. Many of us go through our daily lives without a lick of care because we its not our sister, daughter, mother. but can you imagine the pain if it was?
This is not to say that “buddha boy” is not important because any enlighten being is of GREAT importance to the world at large. Think about it, if the boy was bitten by snakes, burns off his own clothes, did not eat or drink for 10months, and not to mention no tiolet, do you think he needs anyone helps. If he was adducted thats a different story but someone with all those ability would have sense the moment and stood up and “walk away” before the situation happened.
Third, Prakash, if there was a buddha, he would not choose New York, etc. because the people here are sooo materialistic that buddha nature would be meaningless to them. That was a joke people, do not attack me like you attacked Prakash. But seriously the rich countries, Prakash, are the one involve in all the worlds problem. Pollution, war, and what your fighting to prevent.
Four, Prakash, the best way to prevent women or young boys from being abuse is to cut off all the penis of the men who pays for those services. Because if there is no money to be made, business close.
Thank You Prakash, if you are honestly doing what you say you are. And I think some of you should thank him as well.
Be safe and buddha bless everyone
i cant beleave what i herd last night i watched the discovery channel lkast night on this amazing budha boy i think this is great im only 16 an in the past had nothing to beleave in but now after watchin the budha boy i have something to beleave in i would love to visit an whitness this amazing budha boy its just unbeleavable !!!!!
i cant beleave what i herd last night i watched the discovery channel lkast night on this amazing budha boy i think this is great im only 16 an in the past had nothing to beleave in but now after watchin the budha boy i have something to beleave in i would love to visit an whitness this amazing budha boy its just unbeleavable !!!!! !!!
ow i recon he is prettty georgeous though maybe in six years time he can come vistit australia and show people here that he is not a fake and he is the real thing i beleave this budha boy can changed the way people think about the after life and give people like me something to beleave in if anyone has more infor about this amazing boy please email me them on miss1990@hotmail.com it would be a real help thanks
Hello we can find many other similarity like us in your blog.
I see it a great story…. That BB must be rich celebrity one day once back from mediatation…
For all known believer of BB here is my opinion…
1) BB is a true believer of Buddha teaching. No one will tell the greatness of Lord Buddha other than a publicity to make some Money.. like discovery..
2) Buddha himself never say he is god but the believer in his teaching is…
3) All the matter in the world of badness and violence is created by evils who is don’y know what is the religion is all about..
4) All religion is good but no one knows exactly what is in the teaching except the people call gods… other than that is human creation…
5) Human is only looking for richness and money$$$… No matter what the cause…
Lastly… Education is more important than anything else… without it nobody knows what u are thinking…. We must believe in Gods and Science together…. because no one on earth can explain everything… Ask anybody around u… Do u believe in UFO or Ghost…
The truth is out there…..
I see it a great story…. That BB must be rich celebrity one day once back from mediatation…
For all known believer of BB here is my opinion…
1) BB is a true believer of Buddha teaching. No one will tell the greatness of Lord Buddha other than a publicity to make some Money.. like discovery..
2) Buddha himself never say he is god but the believer in his teaching is…
3) All the matter in the world of badness and violence is created by evils who is don’y know what is the religion is all about..
4) All religion is good but no one knows exactly what is in the teaching except the people call gods… other than that is human creation…
5) Human is only looking for richness and money$$$… No matter what the cause…
Lastly… Education is more important than anything else… without it nobody knows what u are thinking…. We must believe in Gods and Science together…. because no one on earth can explain everything… Ask anybody around u… Do u believe in UFO or Ghost…
The truth is out there…..
I wish Bonjom well. He is only traveling his path to heaven.
I takes much concentration. He has seen the worlds on the other side and now this world pales in comparison to the sights he has seen. It is so beautiful!
Why should he not want to spend all his time visiting the worlds and great beings?
Wish him well.
Ram was an amazing being to be able to meditate and survive as he did in that same spot for such a long time.
However, I think its very likely that the poor guy may have died. He was eating very little food or water (or none at all, if the claims are true) and it was amazing that he lasted for such a long time that he did. I wonder if a tiger got him or if he simply collapsed from exhaustion and his body was destroyed to hide the evidence.
Many people were profiting from the alms given for his devotion, and whether it was a scam or not, it is a tragic story.